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[batch]

Hi,

just heard about ACN. On the one hand they say it is great opportunity, and that it will grow (more services available), on the other hand some people say it is scam, frau and that it is just a pyramid scheme with some pseudo-products, that do not generate high comisions. And one more bad thing is that you have to pay them regularly some money to be in the bussiness - so whaen you earn little, you have nothing left.
Opinions, please?

[Aron]

Personally I do not like businesses, where your initial income is from fees from other distributors and only a small percentage of income
is a result of selling products. In ACN the idea of making money on the services like VOIP is excellent, but the pay structure is too old, today you can find better deals. You have a problem, services are cheaper and cheaper, can't keep the compensation plan, the initial contribution is too high. Maybe it will look better in electricity and gas, but that's later.

[leo]

I cannot see anything good in ACN American Communications Network. One can earn really small fees from VIOP calls, and bigger money from suc.king more people into the scheme.

They offer phone, internet, TV. What about electricity and gas, that the told they will be offering in near future... yet the future never seems to come.

Think: How many average VOIP customers shall one person have to break even?

[damoose88]

You all seem to be very misinformed, please allow me to remedy that. First of all, Aron, ACN does not distribute the sign-up fees through the distributor's upline as doing so is in direct violation of federal laws banning pyramid schemes. Also ACN had provided gas and electricity under an affliate company known as ACN Energy, which as of current is no longer owned nor operated by ACN and its affiliates. Now, Leo, it seems that you do not quite understand the method of the MLM system. Companies that operate using the MLM method reward individuals for the aquisition of customers for the company. The distributor makes very little money from sales to the customers he or she personally aqcuires, and the company generally remedies this by using personally acquired customers as a means toward promotion within the company. Most of a distributor's income comes from the customers of the distributors the individual has introduced, and in fact the individual distributor is only required to aqcuire a certain number of customers depending upon the requirements of the company's compensation plan (ACN's compensation plan can be viewed here: http://www2.acninc.com/join/301.pdf). In fact, if a distributor acquired only 20 video phone customers and introduced 3 individuals who also became distributors, who, in turn, acquired 20 video phone customers and introduced 3 individuals each, and if this repeated itself through 7 levels, an individual could theoretically earn well over 150,000 per month. This example is merely an example, however. This level of income is not intended to reflect any individual's personal efforts or results and this level of income is not likely nor should you expect to earn it. Batch, I hope this provides sufficient information for you regarding your decision to enter the MLM industry. One thing you should understand before you join, however, is that MLM is not an easy industry to succeed in. It requires an instinct and a personality that is sometimes innate but usually must be developed through difficult and consistent work and study, and should you manage to develop this personality, the income example I mentioned earlier in my posting is still very much a possibility

[leo]

Wow, damoose88, thank you for your detailed answer, that cleared a lot

In fact, if a distributor acquired only 20 video phone customers and introduced 3 individuals who also became distributors, who, in turn, acquired 20 video phone customers and introduced 3 individuals each, and if this repeated itself through 7 levels,

Well, both you and I know that is is very unlikely to happen How much people shall be then involved in that distributors downline?
On 1st level 3
On 2nd - 9
3rd - 27
4 - 81
5 - 243
6 - 729
7 - 2189

That sums up to 3280 distributors, and 65600 customers!

That is whole small town of distributors and a whole city of customers - for example Concord, NC, where ACN inc is located, have 55,977 citizens.

[damoose88]

Well, both you and I know that is is very unlikely to happen How much people shall be then involved in that distributors downline?
On 1st level 3
On 2nd - 9
3rd - 27
4 - 81
5 - 243
6 - 729
7 - 2189

That sums up to 3280 distributors, and 65600 customers!

That is whole small town of distributors and a whole city of customers - for example Concord, NC, where ACN inc is located, have 55,977 citizens.

Actually, Leo, that is more possible than you seem to believe. You see, in MLM we build teams through networks. Out of every single person that you have met in the last month, and I mean everyone (store clerks, co-workers, family, friends, your banker/accountant/lawyer/doctor, etc.), how possible does it seem that you can find 3 people who would be interested in what the company has to offer? Now out of every single person that those 3 individuals have met, how possible does it seem that they would each know 3 people who would be interested in what the company has to offer? Now regarding customers, you could theoretically sell to yourself, your son(s)/daughter(s), your mom/dad, your spouse's mom/dad, your mom's mom/dad, your dad's mom/dad, your spouse's mom's mom/dad, your spouse's dad's mom/dad, your aunts/uncles, your spouse's aunts/uncles, your cousins, your spouse's cousins, your nephews/neices, your spouse's nephews/neices, your friends, your co-workers, etc. What I have been known to do and what I've recommended to other distributors with ACN is simply that they take their videophone and a laptop to a starbucks or similar internet cafe and make calls for a few hours. A week of doing that and you're likely to at least interest one person, and that one person becomes another network for you to acquire customers from. On a side note, 3,200 distributors is rather daunting if you're only limited to one area such as Concord, NC, however it becomes much more realistic when you realize that you can not only build your team from your city/state, but from your country, as well as Canada, Puerto Rico, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and the company has plans now for Asia. Suddenly 3,200 people out of at least 1 billion doesn't seem as difficult, hahaha.

[Aron]

What I have been known to do and what I've recommended to other distributors with ACN is simply that they take their videophone and a laptop to a starbucks or similar internet cafe and make calls for a few hours.

Impressing, clever idea. Really stunning. But who do you call for so long time? You family and friends have too much time?
What is the laptop used for, damoose?

[damoose88]

What I have been known to do and what I've recommended to other distributors with ACN is simply that they take their videophone and a laptop to a starbucks or similar internet cafe and make calls for a few hours.

Impressing, clever idea. Really stunning. But who do you call for so long time? You family and friends have too much time?
What is the laptop used for, damoose?

Thank you Aron. The best thing is to co-ordinate with someone in your team (upline/sideline/downline) who also will be spending a couple hours in a different cafe. The two of you simply call each other over and over again. Also, since the video phone does not have its own wireless capabilities yet you run a LAN cable between it and the laptop to allow the video phone to operate using the laptop's wireless capabilities. Also, with a laptop you can look around online to pass the time between calls. We may not be allowed to use cold-marketing techniques but we are allowed to be creative. As long as we don't approach random people and immediately ask them to be a customer or come to a meeting we're pretty much free to whatever comes to mind. Just follow the Golden Rule: 'Don't do anything you wouldn't want done to you.'

[damoose88]

As a side note:
If anyone reading this has any questions regarding ACN or MLM in general please feel free to ask them here. I will do my best to get them answered.

[anarchist]

From a curious outsider looking in, the product itself it crap and outdated. VOIP phones are nothing new, webcams enable the savvy to see family from a long distance free or at least much cheaper, and soon all cellphones will offer the same thing. Why pay money for a huge bulky crappy phone or trick your friends and family into a shitty MLM scheme. No THanks!