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[Aley]

Donald Trump supports ACN. What is in it for him? I am sure that guy like this, businessman, multimillionaire, wouldn't do this for free, nor for thousand dollars. he is too smart and too rich for this. Maybe for millions. Or shares in company, or part of the profits.
So I think - why he do that? Do he desperately need money, or just think that it is good oportunity to have share in ACN company profits?

Or perhaps he does it for free? But this is thinkg that I doubt. Those sharks from big business are clever, don't you think?

[damoose88]

Donald Trump supports ACN. What is in it for him? I am sure that guy like this, businessman, multimillionaire, wouldn't do this for free, nor for thousand dollars. he is too smart and too rich for this. Maybe for millions. Or shares in company, or part of the profits.
So I think - why he do that? Do he desperately need money, or just think that it is good oportunity to have share in ACN company profits?

Or perhaps he does it for free? But this is thinkg that I doubt. Those sharks from big business are clever, don't you think?

Well first of all Aley, you may want to be cautious because I have heard rumors that he threatened litigation against a reporter for allegedly calling him a multimillionaire, hahaha. Second, while I know that he is currently being compensated for his endorsement of our company, I do not know the amount nor the manner in which he is being compensated (however, because ACN is a privately-held company, I do know that Mr. Trump does not own any of it.) In my opinion, Mr. Trump is a rather proud individual who is very commonly seen as a major egotist. While I can not say confidently whether the public's opinion is accurate, I can say with great confidence that if public opinion is in fact accurate, Mr. Trump has certainly earned the right to be proud. His financial history, which includes the numerous contributions he has made to the great city of New York make him an american icon. Being a part of ACN, I personally know what an honor it is to receive an endorsement from an individual of such stature, and I can only assume the trials and tribulations that other large companies undergo to merely approach him for such an endorsement. So, while we may never know Mr. Trump's reasoning behind his endorsement, it is relatively safe to say that he would not associate his name with a company that he did not feel was deserving of it.

Also, on a side note: For those of you who are not aware, the March 22nd episode of the Celebrity Apprentice on NBC will feature ACN's IRIS 3000 video phone. The contestants' challenge will be to develop a commercial for this product, which will then be aired on national tv. It is also my understanding that Mr. Trump approached ACN's Co-Founders with the idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACN_Inc.
(look under Products and Services)

[anarchist]

I must say, I'm eagerly awaiting tonights Apprentice and the "worldwide introduction" of ACN videophone. I wonder if any of the apprentices will make the comment "this product is shit".

[Aley]

And what is your impression, anarchist? Are you disappointed?

[damoose88]

Well, Anarchist, it appears as if the masses are eager to get videophones. I guess our product isnt 'shit' as you claim. I have to ask: What is it like being mistaken so often?

Also, due to the momentum generated by 'The Celebrity Apprentice', I will be very busy helping my team and will not be on for a while. If anyone would still like to make pointless comments (Anarchist) or ask honest questions (everyone else) I will try to get on if and when I am able.

[anarchist]

I was genuinely bummed at how much the episode revolved around drama but I guess that's reality TV. It was agonizing watching the show on ABC's website. I've stayed away from mind-numbing TV.(which meant canceling all TV) for almost 1.5 years, so to finish the entire show was tough but I did so strictly b/c my friend is a "distribu'duper'" and I wanted to be able to chat about it.
Let’s get one thing straight, the concept is not inherently bad. Video chat IS in demand and has a market. That much is for sure. Some people want to see the face of the person they are talking too. The problem with the ACN business model is the people that demand video chat the most already have webcams b/c this concept has been around for quite some time. Not only has it been around but it has been refined and the industry has found the best way is via webcams either attached to a laptop or the home desktop. Most importantly these people have been doing it for free with their children or loved ones in the services, so to get them to sign up for a pricey pay service will take some serious sales skills indeed. Not to mention the universality of Skype over ACN to ACN only calls.
I did a little small scale research and called 3 friends that served in Iraq/Afghan and asked them if they used video calls when abroad. All of them acknowledged that indeed they did. As a matter of fact entire aircraft carriers, army bases, etc. use them on a widespread scale for free using the industry standard--Skype or other free Skype like programs. So once again the problem is blatantly obvious to any outsider without his head squarely placed "up-line" an MLM'ers own ass. Why pay for a service when a superior/equal/slightly inferior product is available for free? (You fill in the blank, the question stands legitimate.) Once you run out of friends and family to sucker into the MLM scheme of selling distributorships and pseudo products, who do you sell them to? Any reasonable criticism of my criticism will be responded to.

[Mike S.]

The video phone ACN has is good quality, the only issue is whomever you are calling needs to have one for you to see them. Otherwise it's just low to fair quality home phone. From my experience I think more effort was put into making the video and video playback quality of the ACN phone, than the audio. Which I find a negative, merely because the vast majority of the people you are calling are not going to be using an ACN phone. Another issue I found was the speaker phone aspect of the Iris 3000 wasn't very spectacular. But this is an issue with all speaker phones. you can use the handset while you are talking, but that just looks and feels silly. That said, skypes quality isn't better. But ACN's audio quality is not on par with the net call provider Vonage. Vonage is the only one I have used and can compare it to.

ACN Versus Skype:
First let me note that I have great internet speed. Not spectacular but fast enough to run the ACN and Skype very comfortably. So upload download speed is not an issue whatsoever for me. I also have unlimited data usage. I average 60 to 70 GB a month which I only mention to give you an idea of what kind of connection speed I have. Pretty nice for mobile broadband. That said, my experience with Skype or ACN's phone is going to be better than your average user, as both are dependent on connection speed. The following is a list of pros and cons of ACN:

Pros:
Better Picture Quality on ACN.
Faster access to you calls. (i.e. Less hassle logging on and getting to a call than Skype)
Better real time playback. (I've found Skype is more susceptible to lag and buffering type issues than ACN's system these issues seem to originate more from the person being called than my set up)

Cons:
Unless you have it connected to your laptop and have a good broadband system, it doesn't travel with you.
Paid Subscription. (A two year subscription to get the best value for your $)
You can't see where you are in relation to the camera while you are in a ACN call. With Skype you can watch yourself in another window. So you know you are always on screen.
You must call a ACN video phone or person with a similar video phone to be seen.
Must purchase additional material to use the system (The ACN phone for example)

In my case I don't feel that ACN is a good investment for a home phone service. I think it's being advertised and pushed as such. The cost is simply to high. It averages $30 a month basic service, but if you want people to be able to call your line from any phone, you have to pay and additional $5 monthly. As far as additional fees for the calls there are not any, provided you only call to other US phone numbers, mexico and Puerto Rico. I believe Canada is also included in that list, but I can't verify that as I don't have a coverage map or contract in front of me for that. Now if you don't have an unlimited internet plan, you will have to pay for data charges. It would be completely impractical to use this type system (Skype included) if you didn't have unlimited internet access. I agree that it is more or less pointless to mention that last statement, as must people that are using computer based phone lines will have unlimited access. But I imagine there are some people out there that are using this with the idea that they will save money, and might not have an unlimited net plan. Realistically if you use this system, it probably won't eat up enough GB's to make a large impact on you internet bill be it unlimited or not. With cellphones being the most common way people connect the ACN video phone is only going to be something you use for special occasions, not when you really need to get in touch with someone. It's a nice idea for holidays and other special occasions. And to be blunt it's great for phone sex. Yet all these things you can do on skype or even web cam chat. You already need a computer to do all those things so why not save some money and do it for free.

As far as investing in ACN as a form of income, I think that would be even more foolish. It's seemingly a technology that could take off and grow. I truly don't feel this is the case. Back in 2002 a few Japanese cellphone companies launched a similar type of service on cellphones. I was living in Okinawa at the time, and used one. For those not in the Know, many Japanese cellphone companies use Okinawa as a test market for new products. The reason why is simple. It's a small island, and cellphone coverage is excellent. Coverage is good because the size of the island makes it easier to get coverage from fewer cell towers. Outside of the technical issues, it failed for a few other reasons you might not think about right away. Namely, people really don't want to be seen every time they get a phone call. It's just not convenient. You can argue that with ACN you are planning the calls, so you know that it's convenient. Good point. But since you are already planning the call, you could just use skype. This fact alone makes ACN more or less a novelty. Novelty items can indeed make money, but only a select few can build a career around them.

[Admin]

Mike S., thank you for your insightful comment

[Guest]

You summed it up better than me. I simply called DaMoose a *****. By the way, where is that guy Damoose? Too rich and prosperous to check the BBS now? Strange. His "opportunities" must be taking up all his time. I think he was a TROLL? Regardless, as time carries on, ACN video phone seems more and more like a silly JOKE. I Win. DaMoose = Fail

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